Twenty-nine people applied to fill the Lacey City Council seat vacated by Nicolas Martinez-Dunning, but not all of them are guaranteed an interview after council members split over how to narrow the field.
The council backed a preliminary yes or no poll after a debate over what constitutes a fair screening process at a work session on Tuesday, Sept. 22. Council members will review the poll results before publicly deciding the final interview list on Oct. 6.
Martinez-Dunning resigned on Aug. 18 amid a bid for a seat on the Thurston County Board of County Commissioners in the Nov. 3 General Election. He is challenging incumbent District 5 Commissioner Emily Clouse in the race.
The 29 applicants are:
Council member Lenny Greenstein said the appointment should not be handled like conventional hiring because council members normally win office through elections.
“Since we’re making that decision for the people, I think we owe it to the people to interview all of them,” Greenstein said. “They stepped up. They want to serve.”
Council member Ryan Siu raised a similar concern about how to screen applicants who already meet the legal qualifications for office.
Deputy Mayor Malcolm Miller also favored interviewing the full field. Although he did not want a two-day process, Miller said nothing in the application packet gave him a reason to eliminate anyone before an interview.
Mayor Andy Ryder and Council members Carolyn Cox and Maren Turner favored narrowing the crowded field.
Ryder questioned whether council members could meaningfully assess 29 candidates over a roughly 10-hour interview process.
City Manager Rick Walk then estimated about 25 minutes per interview and said hearing from all 29 could require a second day.
Cox compared the process to city hiring, noting that meeting minimum qualifications does not guarantee an interview.
“I think it’s too big a group to interview,” Cox said. “I’d like us to find a fair way to narrow it down to 10 to 12 at the most.”
Turner worried about candidates appearing late in the schedule, arguing council fatigue could shortchange them.
“It’s not fair to the people on the second day or the people at the end of the day,” Turner said. “They don’t get the same consideration. You’re tired.”
A proposal to interview all qualified applicants failed on a 3-3 tie, with Greenstein, Siu and Miller in favor and Ryder, Cox and Turner opposed.
The council found a majority for the screening poll, with Ryder, Cox, Turner and Siu in favor, while Greenstein was opposed and Miller abstained.
Siu changed course after supporting interviews for all qualified applicants, favoring council support as a basis for narrowing the field instead of selecting a fixed number of finalists. Turner favored a four-vote threshold for interviews.
The poll itself will not determine who gets an interview, and Ryder cautioned the field could remain large.
“We may go through this whole process, and it still may be 20 plus. We just don’t know,” Ryder said.
Interviews are anticipated on Oct. 20, less than a month before the Nov. 13 adjusted deadline for council action. If no appointment is made by then, authority over the appointment transfers to county commissioners.
If the county does not fill the vacancy within 180 days, the city or county may petition the governor to make the appointment.
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